Dammit. Why couldn’t he choose a better picture?
Oh and I LOVE how he compared me to Wee Shu Min. Apparently, people don’t read well.
It’s fine. ACJC is part of a school of elite JCs in Singapore which are not meant for prudes anyway.
When I said part of a school of elite JCs in Singapore, I didn’t state that AC is the SOLE ELITE JC in Singapore. A closer look into the LANGUAGE, will reveal that I said AC is PART of A SCHOOL OF ELITE JCs in Singapore. You know, collective noun?
Now now children, that is inclusive, NOT exclusive. If I were to practise REAL elitism which sadly, AC students are sterotyped against, I would have said
ACJC is AN ELITE JC in Singapore which is not meant for prudes anyway.
Language and grammar people. Language and grammar. By the way, elite JCs was not a termed I chose to use but rather a term that was thrown into the article, if you remember.
“ACJC girl tied up, roughed up, and humiliated on elite JC premises“
So you can’t blame me. I was merely using the term that was given to us.
And like I have repeated time and time again, your fallacious arguments what so ever are irrelevant after they have crumbled through the mere fact that the “victim” said she is fine.
She. Is. Fine.
Apparently, Alvinology has vested personal interest in the matter by his persistent blog posts on this issue. I have no idea why, but its like a leech that needs to be burnt off.
People. This issue has obviously been blown out of proportion. You CANNOT and WILL NOT and SHOULD NOT speak up for the victim when she has already spoken. Believe me. There are numerous testimonies from her that assures she is fine, she knows it was for fun, she wasn’t crying. Read, the freaking newspaper. She said it was memorable on her blog. Did she say “Omg I cannot face the world anymore my life is over I’ve been thoroughly humiliated”?
No she didn’t.
Like I said, don’t put words into people’s mouth, don’t manipulate words, don’t twist stories, don’t blow things out of proportion.
Really. I fail to see how this can persist after assurance from the article in the press that the girl is fine! How can your argument hold?! If she was traumatized and severely affected by this incident, I would retract my words with immediate effect. But she is not.
Now just move on people. Move on. And stop harping on it.
And by the way Alvin, I AM NOT A RAGGING SUPPORTER! That is hasty generalization. I am not arguing on the grounds that I support ragging. I’m arguing on the grounds that this has been an exaggerated inference of the girls experience from the mere video. That does not mean I support ragging. I feel indifferent towards it. Spot the difference.
I’m not going to spend this ridiculous amount of time dwelling on this incident anymore. As far as I’m concerned, when the girl says its fine, its fine. And all arguments should cease.
And stop lambasting people on forums. Show some level of respect. If you people are arguing that the girl should be shown some respect, do the same to others.
The above is taken from http://j3tflame.blogspot.com
Well, I came to the knowledge of this issue when I chanced upon alvinology, a weblog belonging to a no-name blogger. It describes, albeit with a hint of biasness, a hazing that took place roughly two months ago at a second-tier junior college in Singapore, otherwise known as Anglo-Chinese Junior College. My curiosity then prompted me on to actually read the half-page long article in the Straits Times that documented the happening and tried to sway readers into condemning the behaviours of the ACJC student involved, though rather unconvincingly. I had not intended to churn up a post, since such shenanigans pop up every day or two, and are essentially molehills made into mountains, pardon the overused line. I attempted to close the chapter on this blasphemy of a prank right there and then. Alas, I stumbled onto the abovementioned blog, and my interest was piqued.
Who is J3tflame? Apparently, the chap is a student at ACJC, currently 18 years of age. His moniker reminds me much of the time I was 11 and used to go by the nickname of meteorazor, or at least something somewhere along those lines. At that tender age, I used to fry enemy bots on GunBound, but that’s a different story altogether. Anyway, enough with the personal attacks. Criticising a person’s views, and then turning to strike at his appeareance or his apparent immaturity or even hurling insults with 1000 attack speed is basically weakening your argument and diluting it to the point where it makes Mcdonald’s cola seem like liquid mercury. It is a Xiaxue thing to do, and that leads to an epic fail where at the end of her post, you can’t help wondering if her initial purpose was to raise awareness to bad service or behave like a blonde lian. With regards to the latter, she is already somewhat there.
Back to the issue at hand, this kid’s post literally creates holes for people to poke him with. Wait, that last line didn’t come out right, did it? Anyway, I wouldn’t dain to refute his claims or start a new post altogether on this matter if I had not finished my O’ Level Examinations and found myself with absolutely nothing to purge my boredom.
I sit around and watch the tube but nothing’s on, I change the channels for an hour or two. Twiddle my thumbs just for a bit, I’m sick of all the same old shit. In the house with unlocked doors and I’m fucking lazy…!
Thank god I’m not taking some Food Studies paper right now. Let us proceed with the tasing. Every line will be tased, make no mistake about that.
“Dammit. Why couldn’t he choose a better picture?”
Because that picture is the epic lulz. I would assume that your peers were playing a prank on you during your birthday celebration, taking a photo with flash of you when your countenance was smeared with oil. That’s what y’all ACJC kiddos enjoy anyway, right? The pleasure that radiates from you gives me the impression that you delight in a daily dose of BDSM porn.
“Oh and I LOVE how he compared me to Wee Shu Min. Apparently, people don’t read well.”
Back off. The girl’s a scholarship student at RJC. You’re an unproven bloke like the rest of the peasanthood. The comparison between her and you is odious. On a sidenote, people read well enough to ensure that they don’t end up taking a train all the way down to Dover for the sole purpose of receiving education since they were rejected someplace else.
“It’s fine. ACJC is part of a school of elite JCs in Singapore which are not meant for prudes anyway.”
Get this straight. ACJC was never elite. The reporter was mistaken, and so are you. Readers should place less faith in the Strait Times, since it is a partially distorted representation of the truth anyway. ACJC is ranked 7th place among the JCs in Singapore. That is second-tier. Don’t overestimate yourself bro. Even Temasek JC, which is ranked above your institution by two places, isn’t exactly considered elite material as of yet.
“When I said part of a school of elite JCs in Singapore, I didn’t state that AC is the SOLE ELITE JC in Singapore. A closer look into the LANGUAGE, will reveal that I said AC is PART of A SCHOOL OF ELITE JCs in Singapore. You know, collective noun?”
As above. Your language is nothing to shout about, no point in drawing attention there. This is the second time I’m repeating this. I’ll reiterate. ACJC is not part of the elite schools in Singapore, it is second-tier. You have no basis to state that claim.
“Now now children, that is inclusive, NOT exclusive. If I were to practise REAL elitism which sadly, AC students are sterotyped against, I would have said ACJC is AN ELITE JC in SINGAPORE which is not meant for prudes anyway.”
You probably would fail at practising eliticism anyway, since your academic caliber is a long way off. Don’t bother.
“Language and grammar people. Language and grammar. By the way, elite JCs was not a termed I chose to use but rather a term that was thrown into the article, if you remember. ACJC girl tied up, roughed up, and humiliated on elite JC premises.”
Since your views conflicted with that of the reporter’s to such a large extent, why would you even consider utilising his claims as evidence in your argument? Like I mentioned before, the Strait Times is a newspaper of poor quality, and half of the articles that are published in it cannot be taken at face value.
“So you can’t blame me. I was merely using the term that was given to us.”
Why can’t I blame you? You had issues with the reporter’s choice of words and viewpoint. Why would you make use of a uncreditable source?
“And like I have repeated time and time again, your fallacious arguments what so ever are irrelevant after they have crumbled through the mere fact that the ‘victim’ said she is fine.”
Fair enough, his first signs of valid reasoning. Yet did it ever occur to you that the victim in question could have alleged that she did not suffer from the incident for the sole purpose of avoiding further complications from the public and her peers? A typical school girl who got served with a prank at school probably would not want the media making the situation out to be more than what it actually is. The arguments still stand strong in this case. Arguments are never rendered irrevelant, they are only left temporarily invalid in the event of a legitimate counter-argument.
“She. Is. Fine.”
She struggled like a schoolgirl in a hentai rape. You have the audacity to claim that she is fine? Ludicrous!
“Apparently, Alvinology has vested personal interest in the matter by his persistent blog posts on this issue. I have no idea why, but its like a leech that needs to be burnt off.”
He posted two to three blog posts, the first relating the incident to the general public, and the next few on the follow-up measures taken to deal with the repercussions of the said incident. I would not term the posts as persistent. Alvinology portrays the image of a concerned member of the public. And after viewing the disturbing videos, which perturbed me quite as much as the song Umbrella by Rihanna, I have to concur with his views. You are sick bastards, shoving cake into her shirt and down her lingerie. By the way, the only thing that needs to be burnt off is your horrible attitude.
“People. This issue has obviously been blown out of proportion. You CANNOT and WILL NOT and SHOULD NOT speak up for the victim when she has already spoken. Believe me. There are numerous testimonies from her that assures she is fine, she knows it was for fun, she wasn’t crying. Read, the freaking newspaper. She said it was memorable on her blog. Did she say ‘Omg I cannot face the world anymore my life is over I’ve been thoroughly humiliated?”
The issue has been blown out of proportion, I must admit. The silly going-ons in your douchebag-filled school definitely do not deserve a feature in the local paper. Nonetheless, it is an issue that attracts public attention. You apparently have not done a very good job in wiping your ass after you had finished taking a dump. I can, will, and shall speak up not for the victim, but for the unspoken sufferers in your school. Stop your barbarious acts at once. There is no hint of fun to be found in your activities. Cake in the face might not have raised eyebrows, but tying her to the poles was going overboard. Why should I believe you? You have proven to be an unreliable source of information, with your views highly angled towards shielding your ass. I have read the paper and chosen not to believe those false claims. Like I said before, she just wants to go on with her life. If I was her, you guys would be tased before the cake got within a five metre radius of me.
“No she didn’t.”
Oh really now?
“Like I said, don’t put words into people’s mouth, don’t manipulate words, don’t twist stories, don’t blow things out of proportion.”
I have not put any words into her mouth, I have not manipulated words. You are, however, guilty of the latter charge. I have not twisted stories, and neither have I blown anything out of proportion. These are just my views and you are free to either accept them, or leave this site knowing that you have read some disconcerting material.
“Really. I fail to see how this can persist after assurance from the article in the press that the girl is fine! How can your argument hold?! If she was traumatized and severely affected by this incident, I would retract my words with immediate effect. But she is not.”
I hope you have sufficient experience in using mechanical pencils. Pretty soon you’ll find that your skills will have to be put to use.
“Now just move on people. Move on. And stop harping on it.”
I’m comfortable where I am.
“And by the way Alvin, I AM NOT A RAGGING SUPPORTER! That is hasty generalization. I am not arguing on the grounds that I support ragging. I’m arguing on the grounds that this has been an exaggerated inference of the girls experience from the mere video. That does not mean I support ragging. I feel indifferent towards it. Spot the difference.”
If you are not a ragging supporter as you so claimed, what were you doing in the video? I saw your face clearly in the clip despite the admitedly poor censorship. You were chuckling away like a nymphomaniac in a sex shop. You derive pleasure from such activities? There is no such thing as indifference. You take a stand or you stay out of the matter altogether. Or are you just a leech that tags along with the crowd? You have no grounds to argue upon. I can spot the difference between the people who had good and evil intentions in the video. The only sub-decent character I spotted was the one trying to untie the rope halfway through the video. Unfortunately, one of your cool little friends stopped her. All while you were sitting on the fence, being a bystander as you so claimed.
“I’m not going to spend this ridiculous amount of time dwelling on this incident anymore. As far as I’m concerned, when the girl says its fine, its fine. And all arguments should cease.”
They are not going to cease anytime soon. I want your mugshot in the papers declaring a public apology to the girl. Don’t delude yourself, nothing is fine as of yet.
“And stop lambasting people on forums. Show some level of respect. If you people are arguing that the girl should be shown some respect, do the same to others.”
I’m lambasting you on my personal space, and no respect should be shown to snotty-nosed kids like you who exhibit signs of eliticism yet have no ability to back them up. In the end, you are just another Neighbourhood Bong Kia in a decent school.
With that, I conclude.
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